Godox XPro O and XPro II O remote flash controllers

On a different page, I discussed my experience with Godox remote flash controllers of the X1 series, and the XPro S controller. Briefly, the X1 series was a disappointment, with unreliable connection to Godox AD200 flash units and frequent misfiring, severe problems with the firmware update procedure, and a host of other problems. When Godox introduced the XPro series, I tested the XPro S for Sony mirrorless, and found it to be reliable and problem-free. I then purchased an XPro O for my Olympus E-M1, E-M1 II and OM System OM-1, and found it equally reliable. As a result, I ditched each and every one of my several X1 devices, and continued to use only my XPro.

My poor experience with the X1 controllers was far from unusual, judging from the many negative reviews, and Godox did well to eventually replace the X1 series with a much improved X2 series. The XPro series, on the other hand, was good and reliable already at the start, and Godox continued to produce it until about a year ago. It then gradually introduced an updated, slightly larger XPro II series one model at a time. This series is largely similar to the original XPro, and one of the reasons for the present page is to find out whether the XPro II O (for Olympus, OM System and Panasonic Micro 4/3) performs better than the original XPro O in some respect.

Quite possibly, the XPro models already are out of production although not officially discontinued, and the old stocks will continue to be sold only until exhausted. Therefore, soon you will not have a purchase choice between these two series. Your main choice will be between the smaller and cheaper X2 series and the more capable (and equipped with larger screen and more numerous hardware controls) XPro II series. As for myself, after being burned with the X1 series, I decided to pass on the X2 series and to stay with the XPro/XPro II in spite of their higher size, weight and price. The X2 series might be interesting if you need to attach an additional device (e.g. a microphone or speedlight) on top of the X2 controller. The XPro/XPro II series has no hot shoe on top.

Godox recently introduced the X3 series of miniaturized flash controllers with a small touch screen. I have no experience with this series, but I would not recommend it at present. Perhaps I will change my opinion if the reviews of this new controller series will be overwhelmingly positive, but not before. For now, I remain of the opinion that the minuscule swipe-and-tap touch screen does not inspire a feeling of ergonomic efficiency, and that the small size of the built-in USB-rechargeable battery is a further potential concern for long work sessions. The size-advantage of this small flash controller is limited when you are carrying along large and heavy studio strobes, and disappears if you have to carry along also a USB power bank and must wait a considerable time while recharging the controller in the field. The X2 and XPro series only need two spare AA batteries, either rechargeable or disposable, that take only seconds to swap.

Although the XPro and XPro II series work well also with rechargeable AA batteries, their battery indicator is calibrated for disposable batteries, and may incorrectly display a low-battery warning with rechargeable AAs.

You should also be aware that Adorama is selling a series of Flashpoint branded, slightly cheaper strobe controllers, quite similar to the Godox XPro/XPro II series in external appearance but providing a different set of firmware functions. These controllers are not made by Godox, are not branded Godox, and if any compatibility problem arises, you should not expect Godox to support the operation of their strobes with these third-party controllers.

Comparison of hardware

Figure 1. Godox XPro O (left) and XPRO II O (right).
 

The XPro II O is slightly larger (91 mm high by 61 mm wide, vs. 88 mm high by 57 mm wide) and heavier (140 g vs. 135 g) than the original XPro O.

Perhaps the most noticeable difference is the locking mechanism that prevents the controller from accidentally sliding off the hot shoe of the camera. The original model has a threaded collar that screws down against the hot shoe and presses against the latter, in addition to a protruding pin that fits into the hot shoe. When properly tightened, this mechanism prevents all movements of the controller. A possible drawback is that it is possible to overtighten this collar, making it excessively hard to unlock afterwards and placing a mechanical stress on the hot shoe.

The new model has a button-unlocked collar that only turns one-quarter of a turn and locks automatically. The locking direction is the opposite of the old model (clockwise for the XPro O, counter-clockwise for the XPro II O), so it takes some getting used to. Worst comes to worst, you may damage the hot shoe of the camera and/or the controller by forcing a locked controller onto or off the hot shoe.

While the buttons and front panel of the XPro II O are slightly larger than those of the original model, the number, positions and labels of the controls are the same:

  • 5 buttons along the left side of the screen. Their function changes as shown on the LCD screen.
  • 4 buttons along the bottom of the screen. Their function changes as shown on the LCD screen. The two central buttons, pressed together, reset the controller to default settings.
  • 4 buttons (MODE, MENU, Test (lightning icon), and TCM) and a rotary dial with central button (SET) further below the screen.
  • An LED further down under the other controls.
  • 2 slider switches (Power Off/On and Focus Assist LED Off/On) on the right side of the controller housing.

On the left side of the housing of the XPro O are a USB3 socket (for firmware updates) and a 3.5 mm jack (for non-TTL flash triggering), covered by a rubber flap. The rubber flap is gone on the XPro II O.

At the front of the base, near the hot shoe, is a transparent window for the Focus Assist LED. This red LED projects a dot pattern onto the subject, which can be picked up by the camera and used to autofocus, even in the lack of sharp topographic features on the subject. This LED may be blocked by an unusually large lens or lens shade.

In both models, a lanyard can be attached at the top left corner of the housing.

LCD backlight

In summary mode, the rightmost of the buttons aligned under the LCD screen turns on the LCD backlight, improving the visibility of the screen in low light. There seems to be no way to turn off the backlight, other than switching the controller off and then back on, or waiting until the controller goes to sleep.

Battery compartment

The door of the battery compartment is located on the undersurface of the housing. In the XPro II O, the door is wider and the two AA batteries are spaced further away from each other, and slightly easier to extract. The battery compartment is more cramped in the original model, with no obvious way to get a handgrip on the batteries. Fully charged rechargeable AA batteries do work, but both controllers stop working long before these batteries are fully exhausted. Cheap alkaline batteries last far longer.

Sleep mode and battery life

Both controllers switch off the LCD screen after a minute or so of inactivity, but continue to draw a little power. If you forget to switch off the controllers with their power switch, after 2-3 weeks their batteries can be totally discharged in spite of the controllers entering sleep mode.

Bluetooth

Near the top right corner of the XPro II O is a Bluetooth icon, absent in the original model. Godox says that this model can be controlled via a mobile phone app. No such functionality is available in the original model. This is the only significant functional difference I have discovered so far between the two models. The UI of the two models slightly differs in appearance, but I am not aware of other significant functional differences. I have been able to find on the XPro II O all the firmware functions that I am used to on the original XPro O.

My relatively old Android phone was unable to run the Godox app (it installs successfully but hangs while starting), so this functionality does not work for me.

Firmware upgrades

Godox says that the firmware of the XPro O and XPro II O can be updated on a Windows PC by downloading the latest firmware image and installing an updating app from Godox.

On my Windows 11 PC and Windows 10 laptop (both updated to current Windows versions), the Godox app for upgrading the firmware fails to detect the presence of both the XPro O and XPro II O, so I am unable to update the firmware. This app used to work when I last used it a few years ago with older Godox equipment, but Godox has failed to keep it updated for subsequent Windows upgrades and the app is now non-functional. Running the app in compatibility mode for an earlier Windows version does not help.

On third-party bulletin boards, some people say that the Godox app requires a driver that in the past was supplied as part of Windows, but has since been removed by Microsoft. The driver that they say should fix the problem, however, makes no difference on my PCs.

Perhaps the app might work by installing it on a Windows XP or Windows Vista PC, but this would give me the hassle of creating and maintaining a double-boot PC. I prefer not to bother going to these extreme measures.

On a Windows 8.1 (Vista) Vmware virtual machine, when I physically connect the XPro II to the host, the usual pop-up is displayed, asking me whether to connect the device to the host or to the VM. After choosing the VM, Vista does recognize a new USB device connection and issues the usual beeps and bleeps, but the list of connected devices in the Godox app remains empty. Possibly, the same driver problem that makes the Godox app fail on the host Windows system also prevents the device from being recognized by the VM. Alternatively, the Godox app is incorrectly written and tries to directly access the hardware instead of using the Windows abstraction layers.

Since this app is apparently abandoned by Godox (it has not been updated in several years) and there seems to be no other way for PC users to upgrade the firmware, one may wonder what is the point for Godox to offer newer versions of firmware for download. Is it just a trap for new buyers, so that they will be mislead into believing that the hardware they are buying today can be upgraded in the future?

Basic configuration

In a typical use case, you need to configure the XPro II O to match the configuration of a remotely controlled studio strobe. In the following example, I assume that the strobe is already configured as:

  • Channel 1
  • No wireless ID
  • TTL operation

See the documentation of the strobe for instruction on how to configure it.

If no group was previously configured on the remote, it is reasonable to choose Group A for this task. Only Group A, Group B and Group C can be set to TTL operating mode. The remaining groups can only be set to M (Manual) or OFF (displayed as --).

As a factory default, the controller is set to Channel 21. To change it to Channel 1:

  • Short-press the MENU button
  • Select the radio setting (at the top left on page 1/2 of the menu) and press the SET button at the center of the rotary dial.
  • Make sure that CH is selected (select CH by rotating the dial if necessary), then press SET.
  • Rotate the dial until Channel 1 is selected, then press SET.
  • Press MENU to close the menu.

You may wish to verify that ID is off on the controller:

  • Press MENU and turn the dial to select ID. If OFF is displayed at the right, you are done, otherwise press SET and rotate the dial until OFF is selected.
  • Press SET, then MENU.

You should also check that the controller is set to the proper distance setting from the strobe(s):

  • Press MENU, turn the dial to select DIST. The choices are 1-100m and 0-30m. Choose the latter if the strobe is relatively close to the controller. The 1-100m setting may work better for large distances, especially outdoors.
  • Press SET, then MENU.

Now you need to set Group A to TTL mode and set the exposure correction factor to 0.0:

  • Press the topmost of the column of buttons along the left side of the screen. This will highlight the mode and correction factor at the right of the A symbol.
  • Press MODE LOCK one or more times, until TTL is displayed in the second column. Press SET to save the setting.
  • Press SET, then rotate the dial until 0.0 is displayed in the third column. This is the exposure correction factor (see also below).
  • Press SET, then MENU.

If you will only use Group A, verify that the remaining groups are off (--).

Turn on the strobe and press the Test button (lightning bolt icon) on the controller. The strobe should flash at low power. If the configuration works as expected and there is no apparent interference from other radio source, you may wish to lock the configuration against accidental changes:

  • Keep the MODE LOCK button on the controller pressed for about 2 s, until LOCKED is displayed at the bottom of the controller LCD screen.

You can suspect interference, for example, if the strobe randomly fires even though it has not been triggered by the XPro II O, or if the strobe sometimes misfires or fails to fire when triggered by the controller. Misfires usually result in a strongly under- or overexposed image, or a completely black frame. Configuring the same ID on the controller and strobe in some cases may help to prevent interference.

Additional controls and labels

The button with the magnifying glass icon, described as Magnification Function in the XPro II O user guide, switches from a summary view of the first five Groups to a detailed one-group view of the currently selected group. However, the displayed information (Group, Mode, exposure factor, modeling light intensity in %) seems to be the same in both display modes. There are slight differences in which settings can be selected and changed (with the row of unlabeled buttons at the bottom of the screen) in either view.

The TCM label that accompanies the Magnification Function button in the XPro O is gone in the XPro II O. The TCM function is supposed to allow switching between TTL and M modes without losing the settings of either mode, although I am not quite clear on how it actually works. TCM can be switched off, or on at a number of different powers (in Joule), or to a special setting for a specific Godox speedlight series. The user guide contains a table of values in J corresponding to the major studio strobe models/families. For example, 600 J is the setting indicated for the AD600 family. I leave TCM OFF, which does not seem to have any negative effect with my strobes. When the TTL mode seems to over- or underexpose with some subjects, I prefer to use the exposure compensation instead of switching to M mode.

The Zoom setting applies only to speedlights. I leave it on Auto, where it seems to have no effect when used with strobes.

The labels of the buttons and controls of the XPro O are screen-printed on the front panel in white-on-black, and very visible. The labels on the XPro II O appear to be laser-burned and are gray-on-black, and therefore much less visible in low light. They look sharper than screen-printed labels. So far, neither type of labels seems bo be wearing off in my controllers. Labels located on top of the buttons should be more likely to wear out than those located on the casing.

Should you upgrade from an earlier controller to the XPro II?

If you are still using an original X1T controller and are experiencing problems with it, upgrading to the XPro II makes perfect sense. My X1T O still works fine (although its range is not as wide as the XPro O), while my XT1 S (for Sony Alpha) never worked properly, and I ditched it together with other controllers and receivers for Sony from the original Godox series. None of these early-model devices for Sony cameras worked properly, and about half of them never worked at all (but my XPro S does work on the Sony A7II and A7RII).

I have no hands-on experience with the X2T controller series, which replaced the X1T series and kept the same size as the X1T, but added several hardware controls and a locking collar similar to the XPro II. Given my largely negative experience with the X1T, I upgraded directly to the more promising XPro series for both my Olympus and Sony cameras.

If you are using an XPro controller, the only good reason for upgrading to the XPro II is the Bluetooth functionality (assuming that you will be able to use it - I did not succeed on my Android phone). If you don't need to use the controller via Bluetooth on a mobile phone, I don't see any reason to upgrade to the XPro II.

If you are considering the purchase of a new XPro II controller because you need one more controller, then you don't really have a choice, because the XPro series has been discontinued, or will be discontinued soon.

Summary

The Godox XPro II O radio strobe controller works as well as the older XPro O.

The newer model adds Bluetooth functionality, and replaces the locking collar with a different design, but does not seem to add any other new function. If there are improvements in the functionality, I have not discovered them. Since the older XPro O has been discontinued, new buyers of the Godox strobe radio control system don't really have a choice.

With the potential exception of the Bluetooth functionality, I cannot see any reason for anyone to replace their XPro with the newer and more expensive XPro II.

The Godox Bluetooth remote control app for the XPro II does not work on my Android phone.

The Godox firmware update software does not work with the XPro and XPro II on my Windows 10 and Windows 11 PCs (nor does it work with my Godox AD600 Pro strobe).